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- BASEL @ @ ### see SALZBURG
- ZUERICH @
- INNSBRUCK
- __Contents__
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
- 1 Introduction
-
- 2 Mail Order
- 2.1. Books
- 2.2. Newspapers
- 2.3. Audio / Video Tapes
- 2.4. Miscellaneous
-
- 3 Addresses / Phone Numbers
- 3.1. Consulates / Embassies
- 3.2. Goethe Institutes
- # 3.3. Universities
- 3.4. Miscellaneous
-
- 4 Short-Wave Radio / Satellite TV
- 4.1. Deutsche Welle
- 4.2. Regional German Radio Stations via Shortwave
- 4.3. TV via Satellite
- 4.4. Swiss Radio; Radio Austria
-
- 5 Phone System
- 5.1. Public Phones / Phone Cards in Germany
-
- 6 German zip codes (Postleitzahlen, PLZ)
- 6.1. Finding PLZs on the Net
- 6.2. The New Zip-Code System
- 6.3. The Old Zip-Code System
-
- 7 (Public) Transportation in Germany
- 7.1. Railways
- 7.1.1. Deutsche Bundesbahn AG
- 7.1.2. Which Train to Use
- 7.1.3. Ticket Prices
- 7.1.4. International Addresses for Railway Travelers
- 7.1.5. Timetables
- 7.1.6. The "Poor Man's Version" of the "Kursbuch"
- 7.1.7. Fly and Ride (a Train)
- 7.1.8. Trains and Bicycles
- 7.2. Country-Wide/Continent-Wide Bus Travel like Greyhound?
- 7.3. Regional Bus Service
- 7.4. Local Transport (Within Cities)
-
- # 8 Email in Germany
- # 8.1. Finding Email Addresses
- # 8.2. Getting Email Access
- # 8.2.1. Universities
- # 8.2.2. Private Networks
-
- 9 Electronic Language
- 9.1. Dictionaries (Word Lists from the Net)
- 9.2. Encyclopedias, "Lexika"
- 9.3. Translation Programs; Spell Checkers; Thesauri
- 9.4. Tutorial Software
-
- 10 "de" Newsgroups
-
- 11 Fax Numbers in Germany
-
- 12 German News via gopher/email
-
- 13 German Soccer Results
-
- 14 Transferring Foreign Academic Degrees to Germany
-
- 15 Questions and Answers
- 15.1. How to Write Umlauts in soc.culture.german?
- 15.2. Taking American Electronic Equipment to Germany?
- 15.2.1. Importing Phones to Germany?
- #15.2.2. Video Tapes? -- Different Video Norms!
- 15.3. Calling Germany Collect from Abroad?
- 15.4. Using US Phone Cards in Germany?
- 15.5. VAT in Germany?
- 15.6. What presents to take to Germany?
- 15.7. Buying a Car for Short Period instead of EuRail?
- 15.8. How much is Gasoline in Germany?
- 15.9. How to get German Stock Data via Internet?
-
- [To skip to a particular question, search for the question number
- followed by two blanks.]
-
- 1 Introduction
-
- This posting contains answers to frequently asked questions in
- soc.culture.german. The answers are neither complete nor tested by me.
- All information in this FAQ is free and everybody should feel
- encouraged to distribute it.
-
- Please check this posting first before you ask a question in
- soc.culture.german.
-
- Input to this FAQ is always welcome. Please refer to
- vogelges@physics.purdue.edu if you have questions about the FAQ.
-
- The FAQ was prepared by collecting different postings and email
- messages.
-
-
- 2 Mail Order
-
- In this section you will find addresses of mail order stores which sell
- books or tapes either in German or about Germany (or both). This list
- is not necessarily based on the maintainer's personal experience. The
- maintainer of this list is not responsible for the accuracy of this
- information.
-
- You will find general mail order stores below.
-
-
- 2.1. Books
-
- German Information Center
- (see 2.2.)
-
- Der Buchwurm
- (German Books, Music Tapes, CD's, Journal Subscriptions, etc.)
- PO. Box 268
- Templeton, CA 93465
- Tel: (805) 238-2353
- Fax: (805) 238-9523
-
- Mary S. Rosenberg, Inc.
- 1841 Broadway
- New York, NY 10023
- Tel: (212) 307-7733
- Fax: (718) 857-7163
-
- Mail order, but no credit cards! However, checks do not need to
- clear your bank before they send merchandise.
-
- Schoenhof's Foreign Books
- 76A Mount Auburn Street
- Cambridge, MA 02138
- Tel: (617) 547-8855
- Fax: (617) 547-8551
-
- Accepts Visa, MC, and AMEX.
- French, German, Italian, and Spanish books
-
- Adler's Foreign Books, Inc.
- 915 Foster Street
- Evanston, Illinois 60201
- Tel: 1-800-ADLERS-1
-
- Accepts major credit cards,
- no current catalogue!
-
- International Book Import Service, Inc.
- 2995 Wall Triana Highway, Suite B4
- Huntsville, Alabama 35824-1532
-
- Continental Book Company
- 80-00 Cooper Avenue
- Bldg. #29
- Glendale, NY 11385
-
- MAIL ORDER KAISER
- Postfach 401209
- 80712 Muenchen
- Germany
- Tel: +49 89 362001
-
- Mail order bookstore in Germany.
- Delivery worldwide at German domestic prices.
- Monthly newsletters.
-
- ATS (Associated Technical Services)
- 855 Bloomfield Ave.
- Glen Ridge, NJ 07028
-
- Technical Dictionaries
-
- 2001
- Ferdinand-Porsche-Str. 39
- Postfach 61 06 37
- 60348 Frankfurt/Main
- Tel: +49 69 4208000
- Fax: +49 69 415004
-
- or:
-
- Kantstr. 41
- 10625 Berlin 12
- Tel: +49 30 3125017
-
- They deliver only to European countries. A Bill will be included
- on delivery. The value of an order to abroad must be above 50 DM.
- Only books are delivered abroad, no CDs, tapes or records.
-
- Wissenschaftliche Buchgesellschaft
- Hindenburgstrasse 40
- Postfach 11 15 53
- 64230 Darmstadt 11
- Germany
- Tel: +49 6151 33080
- Fax: +49 6151 314128
-
- Carl Hanser Verlag
- Postfach 86 04 20
- 81631 Muenchen
-
- Take major credit cars, and offer books from BASIC programming to
- Object-Oriented methods. Nice little catalog - these are the
- distinctive bright red books with blue trim.
-
- "Die Weisse Rose"
- Rozengracht 166
- Amsterdam
- The Netherlands
- Tel: +31 20 638 3959
- Opening hours: Tue-Fri 10-18, Sat 11-17
-
-
- 2.2. Newspapers
-
- Deutschland Nachrichten / The Week in Germany
-
- The German Information Center
- 950 Third Ave.
- New York NY
- 10022
- Tel: (212) 888-9840
-
- "Deutschland Nachrichten" or its English version "The Week in
- Germany" is a free 8 page flyer. It features selected articles
- from various German newspapers, soccer results, and the $/DM
- exchange rate. The German Information Center also distributes
- lots of other information (books, maps, ...) for free. They
- are a particularly helpful resource for those who may have to
- prepare a school presentation about Germany.
-
-
- Der Spiegel
-
- German Language Publications, Inc.
- 153 South Dean Street
- Englewood NJ
- 07631
-
- Published weekly, subscription price for the USA is $280 p.a.
-
-
- Die Zeit
-
- Die Zeit
- 29 Coldwater Road PO. Box 9868
- Toronto, ON Englewood, NJ
- M3B 1Y8 07631-1123
- Canada USA
-
- "Die Zeit" is available either via air mail or as international
- edition via surface mail from Canada. The international edition
- is much cheaper but contains less pages.
-
-
- The German Tribune
-
- does not exist any more ...
-
-
- Die Nordamerikanische Wochenpost
-
- Die Nordamerikanische Wochenpost
- 1120 E. Long Lake Road
- Troy, MI
- 48098
-
- 3 month trial subscription: $15, one year $42.95
-
- This is a general interest newspaper. The front page generally
- features news from/about Germany. There are special pages for
- regional, domestic American news of interest to German speakers
- (e.g. Florida, New York, Chicago/Milwaukee, and Detroit).
- Additionally, there's a special page for news from/about
- Austria. All the major sections that you would expect in any
- newspaper are represented: politics, sports, the economy,
- fashion, cartoons, features, editorials, etc. There are also
- several short-stories and a serialized novel. There's a list of
- German-language radio broadcasts for North America (US and
- Ontario, Canada). It also contains a list of German-American
- associations.
-
-
- Tages-Anzeiger
-
- Tages-Anzeiger
- Abonnentendienst
- Postfach
- CH-8021 Zuerich
- Fax: +41 1 248-5055
-
- prices (Sfr) for all countries, first four issues free.
-
- air mail surface mail
- 3 months 41.74 33.75
- 6 months 78.50 66.50
- 1 year 135.00 111.00
-
- Tages-Anzeiger is one of the major Swiss daily newspapers
- (besides Neue Zuericher Zeitung). Their international edition
- is published weekly.
-
-
- 2.3. Audio / Video Tapes
-
- VIDEO:
-
- (For conversion of videotapes (NTSC <-> PAL) see 15.2.2.)
-
- German Language Video Center
- 7625-27 Pendleton Pike
- Indianapolis, Indiana 46226
- Tel: (317) 547-1257
-
- free catalogue
-
-
- AUDIO:
-
- The Olivia and Hill Press
- PO. Box 7396
- Ann Arbor, Michigan 48107
- Tel: (313) 663-0235
- Fax: (313) 663-6590
-
- Selection of German-language cassette recordings of novels,
- plays, and radio plays, e.g. Duerrenmatt's "Der Richter und sein
- Henker". Free catalogue.
-
-
- Schau ins Land
- PO. Box 158067
- Nashville, TN 37215-8067
- Tel: 1-800-824-0829
-
- Monthly audio magazine of news, stories, music, etc. Comes with
- a written transcription including a vocabulary glossary.
- Approx. $120/yr. in the US.
-
-
- 2.4. Miscellaneous
-
- Quelle:
-
- W. Hoeffken
- Representative for QUELLE
- PO. Box 999
- Oceanside, NY. 11572
-
- The catalogue is $20, which is refundable with the first order
- (DM 100 minimum). Payment can be made with a personal check drawn
- on a US. bank or with a credit card. English translations of
- the product descriptions are provided.
-
-
- 3 Addresses / Phone Numbers
-
- 3.1. Consulates / Embassies
-
- The Consulates are very helpful in getting information about anything
- concerning Germany (travel, politics, laws ...) They're very
- thorough and supply lots of information in response to requests. The
- German Information Center (see 2.2.) is sponsored by them.
-
- There is a list of all embassies/consulates in the US. You get it
- from the Department of State. Its title is "Foreign Consular Offices
- in the United States" and it contains addresses, names of the staff
- and phone numbers. You might find the booklet in most public
- libraries.
-
- Consulate General of the
- Federal Republic of Germany
- One Union Square, Suite 2500
- 600 University Street
- Seattle, WA 98101
-
- The German Embassy
- 4645 Reservoir Road NW
- Washington, DC 20007
-
- Consulate General of the FRG
- 2100 Edison Plaza
- 660 Plaza Drive
- Detroit, MI 48226-1849
- Tel: (313) 962-6526
- Fax: (313) 962-7345
-
- # Consulate General of the Federal Republic of Germany
- # 460 Park Ave.
- # New York, NY
- # Tel: (212) 572 5600
-
- Consulate General of the Federal Republic of Germany
- 6222 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 500
- Los Angeles, CA 90048
- Tel: (213) 930-2703
-
- Consulate General of the Federal Republic of Germany
- Miami, FL
- ???? street, phone ????
-
- Consulate General of the Federal Republic of Germany
- 676 N Michigan Ave.
- Chicago
- Tel: (312) 580-1199
- Office hours: Mon-Fri 8.30-12
-
- Deutsche Botschaft Singapur:
- Far East Shopping Centre
- 545 Orchard Road #14-01
- Singapore 9124
- Tel: +65 7371355
- Fax: +65 7372653
-
- Konsulat der Bundesrepublik Deutschland
- Via Solferino 40
- 20121 Milano, Italy
- Tel: +39 2 6554434
- Fax: +39 2 6554213
-
- Embajada de la Republica Federal de Alemania
- Agustinas 785 Piso 7 y 8
- Casilla 9949
- Santiago de Chile
- Tel: +56 2 335031/5
- Fax: +56 2 336119
- Office hours: 9-12 am
-
- Embajada de la Republica Federal de Alemania
- Villanueva 1055
- CC 2979
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Tel: +54 7715054, +54 7715059
-
- Embajada de la Republica Federal de Alemania
- La Cumparsita 1417/1435
- CC 20014
- Montevideo, Uruguay
- Tel: +598 908041, +598 913970
-
- Embajada de la Republica Federal de Alemania
- Av. Venezuela 241
- CC 471
- Asuncion, Paraguay
- Tel: +595 24006, +595 24007
-
- Honorarkonsulat der Bundesrepublik Dtld.
- Jorge Memmel 631
- Encarnacion, Paraguay
- Tel: +595 25567
-
-
- 3.2. Goethe Institutes
-
- The various "Goethe Institutes" are funded by the German government
- to provide an opportunity for people outside Germany to become
- acquainted with German culture. They offer exhibitions, movies, and
- German classes. To get more information, call one of the following:
-
- Ann Arbor (313) 996-8600
- Atlanta (404) 892-2388
- Boston (617) 262-6050
- Chicago (312) 329-0915
- Cincinnati (513) 721-2777
- Houston (713) 528-2787
- Los Angeles (213) 854-0993
- New York (212) 439-8700
- San Francisco (415) 391-0370
- Seattle (206) 622-9694
- St. Louis (314) 367-2452
- Washington DC. (202) 319-0702
-
- Montreal (514) 499-0159
- Toronto (416) 924-3327
- Vancouver (604) 732-3966
-
- Kyoto 75 761218-889
- Osaka 6 3413051-53
- Tokyo 3 3584-3201 or 3 3584-3267
-
- Amsterdam +31 20 623 0421 (Herengracht 470)
-
- Singapore +65 3375111
-
- Santiago de Chile +56 383185
-
- Montevideo, Uruguay +598 405813
-
- Wien, (Vienna) Austria +43/222/512-39-82/0 (Stallburggasse 2)
- (Goethe-Institut der Oesterr.-Amerikanischen Ges.)
-
-
- # 3.3. Universities
- #
- # The most accessible listing of the many German universities is probably
- # found in 'The World of Learning', which should be in the reference
- # section of the libraries of most unis in the English speaking world.
- # It lists Universities, faculties, departments, affiliated organizations,
- # as well as academic staff with respective general areas of specialization
- # (eg. structural mechanics). [3/94]
-
-
- 3.4. Miscellaneous
-
- Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft
- Kennedyallee 40
- 53175 Bonn 2
-
- They are something like the NSF in the USA.
-
- Deutscher Akademischer Austauschdienst
- Kennedyallee 50
- 53175 Bonn 2
- Tel: +49 228 8820
-
- German Academic Exchange Office
- 950 Third Avenue, NY 10022
- phone: (212) 758-3223
- FAX : (212) 755-5780
- Email: DAADNY@NYUACF.BITNET
-
- Very important for foreign students who want to study in Germany
- and also for German students who want to study in another country.
- They also have an office in New York (check the phonebook for
- German Academic Exchange Service)
-
- Studienstiftung des deutschen Volkes
- Mirbachstr. 7
- 53173 Bonn 1
- Tel.: +49 228 354091
-
- An important source of scholarships for German students abroad and
- in Germany.
-
- Konferenz der Kultusminister
- Postfach 22 40
- 53012 Bonn
-
- This is the place where they decide about transferability of foreign
- academic degrees. Maybe they answer questions.
- ???? Any experience how helpful this address is ????
-
- Representative of German Industry and Trade
- One Farragut Square South
- Washington, DC. 20006
- Tel: (202) 347-0247
-
- Zentralstelle fuer Arbeitsvermittlung
- Feuerbachstrasse 42-46
- 60325 Frankfurt/Main
- Tel: +49 69 71110
- Fax: +49 69 7111555
-
- This is an important address for people who want to work in Germany.
-
- Association for International Practical Training (AIPT)
- 217 American City Building
- Columbia, MD 21044-3492
- Tel: (301) 997-2200
-
- Chamber of Commerce (Industrie- und Handelskammer)
-
- The German-American Chamber of Commerce
- 465 California Street, Suite 910
- San Francisco, CA 94104
- Tel: (415) 392-2262
-
- German-American Chamber of Commerce
- 104 S. Michigan Ave. Suite 600
- Chicago, IL 60603-5978
- Tel: (312) 782-8557; (312) 641-6673
-
- German-American Chamber of Commerce
- 909 Fannin Suite 3750
- Suite 3418
- Houston, TX 77010
- Tel: (713) 658-8230
-
- German-American Chamber of Commerce
- 3250 Wilshire Blvd.
- Suite 1112
- Los Angeles, CA 90010
- Tel: (213) 381-2236; (213) 381-2237
-
- German-American Chamber of Commerce
- 666 Fifth Avenue
- New York, NY 10103
- Tel: (212) 974-8830; (213) 582-7788
-
- German-American Chamber of Commerce
- Peachtree Center Harris Tower
- 233 Peachtree Street NE
- Suite 2701
- Atlanta, GA 30303
- Tel: (404) 577-7228
-
- Camera de Comercio Uruguayo-Alemana
- Zamala 1379 Piso 4
- CC 1499
- Montevideo
- Tel: 405813
-
- Deutsch-Paraguayanische Industrie- und Handelskammer
- Camera de la Industria y del Comercio
- Juan O'Leary 409
- Estrella Ed. Parapito Piso 2 Oficina 201
- CC 201
- Asuncion
- Tel: 446594
-
- Deutsch-Argentinische Industrie- und Handelskammer
- Camera de la Industria y del Comercio
- Florida 547
- Buenos Aires
- Tel: 3939006, 3939007
-
- The Chambers of Commerce maintain a list of the German companies
- in the respective countries along with their addresses which you can
- purchase. The price varies according to how detailed a list you
- wish to have.
-
- # Deutsches Jugendherbergswerk
- # Bismarckstrasse 8
- # Postfach 1455
- # D - 32756 Detmold
- # Phone: (+49) 5231 7401 0 Fax: (+49) 5231 7401 49
- # Germany
- #
- # For national and international directories of youth hostels.
-
-
- 4 Short-Wave Radio / Satellite TV
-
- 4.1. Deutsche Welle
-
- The official German short-wave station is the "Deutsche Welle". It
- broadcasts worldwide in a variety of languages and also TV, using
- various satellites. It's there not so much for Germans in Germany, but
- for those people abroad (not only Germans) who would like to keep
- in touch with Germany.
- Radio Deutsche Welle gladly sends out a monthly magazine with
- times/frequencies and stories on broadcasts. If you would like to
- subscribe (for free) contact them at:
-
- Deutsche Welle
- Oeffentlichkeitsarbeit
- 50588 Koeln Tel. 49-221-389-0
- Germany Fax. 49-221-389-41 55
-
- in North America: Tel. 1-800-545-3765
-
- TV: "deutsche Welle Nachrichten", News from Germany (not only about
- Germany)
- North-Americans find it on Mind Extension University (you will need
- cable), daily at 5:00pm ET, three blocks of 30 minutes: German-English-
- Spanish.
- [3/94]
-
- Radio: Generally Radio Deutsche Welle comes in loud and clear.
-
- 6075 ( 0:00- 6:00)
- 6085 ( 4:00- 6:00)
- 6100 ( 0:00- 6:00)
- 9700 ( 4:00- 6:00)
- 9730 (22:00- 2:00)
- 9735 ( 2:00- 4:00)
- 11795 ( 0:00- 4:00)
- 11810 ( 4:00- 8:00)
- 13780 (22:00- 2:00)
- 13790 (14:00-16:00)
- 15270 ( 0:00- 2:00)
- 17715 (12:00-19:00)
- 17860 (18:00- 0:00)
-
- All times are UTC.
- [2/94]
-
-
- 4.2. Regional German Radio Stations via Shortwave
-
- Here are short-wave frequencies for some of Germany's "regional"
- programs. The stations are nationally operated and mostly serve
- one of the federal states.
-
- 7265 kHz SWF 3 Suedwestfunk / Baden-Wuerttemberg
-
- Suedwestfunk
- Postfach 820
- 76485 Baden-Baden
-
- 6190 kHz Sender Freies Berlin & Radio Bremen
-
- Radio Bremen
- Heinrich-Hertz-Str. 13
- 28211 Bremen
-
- Sender Freies Berlin
- Masurenallee 8-14
- 14057 Berlin
-
- 6005 kHz RIAS Berlin (100 kW)
-
- RIAS (Rundfunk im Amerikanischen Sektor)
- Kufsteiner Str. 69
- 10825 Berlin
-
- 6030 kHz Sueddeutscher Rundfunk / Baden-Wuerttemberg (20 kW)
-
- Sueddeutscher Rundfunk
- Neckarstr. 230
- 70190 Stuttgart
-
- 6085 kHz Bayerischer Rundfunk (100 kW)
-
- Bayerischer Rundfunk
- Rundfunkplatz 1
- 80335 Muenchen
-
- Consult the "World Radio and TV Handbook" for a complete listing of all
- short-wave stations. The book is updated annually and can be found in
- many libraries.
-
-
- 4.3. TV via Satellite
-
- Europe: EUTELSAT II-F1 (13 deg. East)
- Transponder 27, 11,163 GHz,
- vert. pol,
- 15-05 UTC, PAL.
- sound: 6.65 MHz
- This is a low power satellite; Deutsche Welle broadcasts not for
- Germans in Germany and so it broadcasts not on the hot bird ASTRA
- satellite (see below)
-
- German TV in Europe / ASTRA
-
- There is a hot bird ASTRA TV satellite with nearly all German TV
- programs (public or commercial) but not with Deutsche Welle on it. An
- equipment to get all these German TV programs is much cheaper in many
- areas than an equipment to get Deutsche Welle. Ask local Germans or
- your satellite dish dealer for ASTRA service.
- [2/94]
-
- North/South America: INTELSAT-K (21.4 deg. West)
- Transponder H7, 11,605 GHz,
- North America: hor. pol.
- South America: vert. pol.
- 15-05 UTC, NTSC-M
- Sound: 6.8 MHz
-
- North America: SATCOM C-4 (135 deg. West)
- Transponder 5V, 3,8 GHz,
- pol. vert.,
- 15-05 UTC, NTSC-M
- Sound: 6.8 MHz
-
-
- 4.4. Swiss Radio; Radio Austria
-
- For Information about Switzerland you might want to listen to
- "Schweizer Radio International"
-
- Swiss Radio International
- PO Box CH-3000
- Bern 15, Switzerland
-
-
- For Austria:
-
- Radio Austria
- A-1136
- Vienna, Austria
-
-
- 5 Phone System
-
- The law:
-
- The German phone system is operated by the German Telecom. There are
- no private long-distance or local phone companies. Every phone, fax or
- modem you connect to a phone line needs to be approved by the German
- Telecom. Approved appliances have a special sticker with a BZT number
- on the back.
-
- The German Telecom (Deutsche Bundespost Telekom):
-
- They are a state-owned company which split from the German mail
- (Bundespost) a couple of years ago. They try to act like a private
- company but don't quite measure up because of lacking competition and
- for various historical reasons. Changes relating to the introduction
- of European Community laws can be expected.
-
-
- 5.1. Public Phones / Phone Cards in Germany
-
- Public phones in Germany work more or less like everywhere, with a few
- exceptions ("of course"):
-
- There are now quite a lot of card phones in Germany. Unlike American
- card phones, they use debit cards. German phone cards can be bought at
- any post office and most money exchanges at major train stations. They
- have a given value (12 DM for 40 units or 50 DM for 200 units). Once
- you have used up this value you must get a new card. All 0130 numbers
- are toll free. At public phones you might have to insert 30 Pfennigs
- (the minimum price for a call)... but you will get your money back.
-
- At card phones it is not possible to use money. If you have neither
- change nor a phone card there are nice public phones at post offices.
- You ask to make a call and pay at the counter after you are finished.
- Some of them have a (tiny) desk next to them.
-
- There is one special phone card which allows you to have the calls you
- make added to your home phone bill. But you need an account at a
- German bank. The annual fee for this card is about 15 DM.
-
- See also "Questions and Answers" for more on international aspects of
- telecommunication in Germany!
-
-
- 6 German zip codes (Postleitzahlen, PLZ)
-
- 6.1. Finding PLZs on the Net
-
- = ftp =
-
- You can retrieve the original databases from various sites:
- ftp.germany.eu.net:/pub/packages/plz
- info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de:/pub/misc/datasets/PLZ
-
- = gopher =
-
- The easiest way to get the new zip codes are Gopher servers.
- They are offered at:
-
- gopher.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
- (here you will also find a map - GIF format - showing the new zip
- code areas) (OK: 02/94)
-
- gopher.rog.rwth-aachen.de (OK: 01/94)
- (They have also a list of car license plate codes and the phone
- area codes).
-
- = telnet =
-
- If you prefer telnet try:
- telnet PLZ.ISR.UNI-Stuttgart.de
- login: PLZ
- password: (not needed) (OK: 01/94)
-
- = Mailserver =
-
- # Thomas Bullinger has written a very handy mail server. To get a
- # zip code send a mail message
- # To: mrbulli@btoy1.rochester.ny.us
- # Subject: #PLZ# <NAME-OF-TOWN>
- #
- # Features:
- # - name of town is case-insensitive
- # - may be abbreviated
- # - no umlauts, hyphens, etc.
- # - only one town per email!
- #
- # Examples:
- # From: hugo@fiktive.site.de
- # To: mrbulli@btoy1.rochester.ny.us
- # Subject: #PLZ# stuttgart
- # This extracts all known PLZ's for Stuttgart (sorted according to
- # street names) and sends it in 5 pieces of max. 1000 lines each to
- # "hugo@fiktive.site.de".
- #
- # Subject: #PLZ# aach
- # All known PLZ's for Aach and Aachen.
- #
- # Subject: #PLZ# badhomburg
- # All known PLZ's for Bad Homburg
-
-
- Another mail server is plz@plz.uni-forst.gwdg.de.
- Send a mail that uses the following syntax:
- 1st line: Adresse:
- 2nd line: <street and number
- 3rd line: <old zip codes> (including the letter O or W) <name of the
- town and old post office number> (for larger cities)
- 4th line: <like 1st line> or QUIT at the end of the mail.
- You don't need the old zip code if there is only one town with this
- name.
- example:
- Adresse:
- Hauptstrasse 5
- W-1234 Stadtdorf 5
- QUIT (OK: 01/94)
-
- = telephone =
-
- The German "POST" also maintains a toll free number (0130-55555) to ask
- for a zip code. The number is open from 08:00 to 22:00 only. [2/94]
-
- # = don't know at all =
- #
- # The old 4 digit zip codes should still work. (Even letters with no zip
- # code at all "should" -in principle- make it through.) No guarantee,
- # though!! Letters will definitely take longer compared to those that
- # use the new code -- if they arrive at all. Some people have already
- # lost mail because of this. [3/94]
-
-
- 6.2. The New Zip-Code System
-
- All zip codes have been changed (effective 7/93). The new zip codes
- have 5 digits. No more additional numbers following city names.
-
- There is no easy way to convert between old and new zip codes.
-
- One CITY might now have more than one zip code. Then you need the
- name of the STREET to find the zip code, but long streets have more
- than one zip code, you need the HOUSE NUMBER; Odd numbers or even
- numbers have not the same zip code in many cases.
- In some big towns there are streets with the same name. So you need
- to know where the street really is, look at the old number of post
- office behind the name of the town.
- The zip codes for POST BOXES are different, still.
-
- Big COMPANIES (companies with more than 1000 letters every day) get
- their own codes (as in the US zip code system). If you just look for
- the address of one of these companies you will get the wrong ZIP code.
- It seems that these company zip codes were in fact kept secret at
- first.
- Only after people started collecting their own listings, the "Post"
- published a special phone book.
- An electronic file can be found at some of the ZIP-code gopher sites
- (see 6.1.).
-
- The German Mail service has distributed a (big!) book containing all
- new zip codes to each German household in May/93. But this book
- neither contains PO boxes nor the big companies' zip codes... [2/94]
-
-
- 6.3. The Old Zip-Code System
-
- Every zip code had one letter, a dash and four digits. The letter was
- a "W" for former West Germany and an "O" for East Germany.
-
- You can get these zip codes via gopher at the infoserver of the RWTH
- Aachen. The also have them as a file for FTP.
-
- Examples: O-1155 Berlin
- W-1000 Berlin 33
-
- In many bigger cities in the West had a number following the city name
- for reasons of further differentiation.
-
- Mail without the O/W letter took/takes significantly longer (weeks!)
- (up-to-date as of: Fall 1993)
-
-
- 7 (Public) Transportation in Germany
-
- 7.1. Railways
-
- !!! The next major change of timetables is on 29. May 1994 !!!
-
- (There will be also a minor change in Fall 1994 and some
- changes during the year.)
-
- Trains play a special role in Germany (and in Europe in general.) In
- terms of traffic they have top priority. They have right of way before
- any other vehicle. There are lot's of tunnels and bridges for trains
- and therefore they don't have to stop anywhere between railway stations
- and can go at rather high speeds... 120km/h (75mph) for regular
- trains, up to 250km/h (120mph) for the high speed trains.
-
- Statistics:
- former Western:
- 27,421 km government owned
- 12,491 km double track
- 11,501 km electrified
- 4,022 km non government owned
- 31,443 km total;
- former Eastern:
- 3,830 km double track
- 3,475 km electrified
- 14,025 km total;
- (1988)
- On a typical day an average of about 32,000 trains are scheduled.
-
- The railroad system in Germany is currently under constant change.
- Most important: there is a program to change the German railroads from
- a government owned and operated system to a free market.
-
- Private and foreign companies are now free to operate on the German
- railroad net.
- [2/94]
-
- 7.1.1. Deutsche Bundesbahn AG
-
- "Deutsche Bundesbahn" (former Western) and "Deutsche Reichsbahn"
- (former Eastern) joined to become "Deutsche Bahn AG". Despite
- unification there are still price differences between East and West!
-
- The Deutsche Bahn AG is forced to split into several branches (and
- later into several companies):
- "Fernverkehr" (Long-distance travel) runs all ICE, EC, IC, EN, IR
- and D trains.
- "Nahverkehr" (Short-distance travel) runs all the other trains.
- "Personenbahnhoefe" (Railway stations) runs the railways stations
- for all railway companies; rents shops in railway stations.
- (Remember: It is forbidden by German law to open shops in the
- evening and on Sundays. But it is legal to sell goods to
- passengers in airports and railway stations....)
- "Ladungsverkehr" (Big freight service)
- "Stueckgutverkehr" (Small freight service)
- "Netz" (Net) sells the right to travel to railroad companies
- "Bahnbau" (Track repair etc)
- "Traktion" (Traction) Rents out locomotives to railways
- "Werke" Repair of rolling stock material
- [2/94]
-
- 7.1.2. Which Train to Use
-
- For the last couple years the "Deutsche Bundesbahn" has been
- implementing a new philosophy in train travel. One very obvious sign
- of its modernization are the new cars, which have defined new colors
- outside and better seats inside.
-
- All modern trains have special color codes:
- red-white = High speed trains (ICE, EC, IC)
- blue-white = long distance trains (IR, Talgo)
- green-white = regional trains (RSB, CB, RB)
- orange-white = urban train (S)
- It is a good idea to use these if possible. Foreign cars are also
- nice. Check the label outside! Only the silver cars ("Silberlinge")
- are real bad.
-
- Most trains have some cars where smoking is allowed... There are also
- first class cars in most trains. You don't really need reservation in
- most trains. If you found no seat you can ride without a seat or, if
- you think the train is to full, take another train an hour later...
- There is no reservation possible for any short-distance trains.
-
- Brief overview:
-
- Long-distance trains
-
- ICE -- "InterCityExpress"; the German high speed train. These
- trains are integrated in the IC network, but have higher prices
- than other IC. Ticket prices depend on ICE speed and the speed
- of other trains at the same distance.
- EC -- "EuroCity"; an international high quality train. In Germany
- most EC's are integrated in the IC net.
- IC -- "InterCity"; an national high quality train. Nearly all IC's
- run in the IC net. On most lines there is one IC every hour.
- EN -- "EuroNight"; a night train, there were only 4 such trains in
- 1993/1994.
- IR -- "Interregio"; similar to IC. The IR net is much longer and
- IR's stop at more stations IC's. On most lines there is one IR
- every other hour.
- D -- "Schnellzug"; a long-distance train which is not good enough for
- to be qualified as ICE, EC, IC, EN, IR. In May 1994 most of them
- will get modernized and become InterRegios.
- Some night trains or trains with foreign destinations will remain
- D trains.
-
- Short-distance trains
-
- RSB -- "RegionalSchnellBahn"; a semi-fast train with good material
- like a VT 610 (German pendolinio), VT 628 or other modern cars.
- Some of these trains are as fast as IC, others stop at every
- station.
- E -- "Eilzug"; a semi-fast train not good enough to be classified as
- RSB. Some of these trains are as fast as IC, others are slower
- and stop at every station.
- CB -- "CityBahn"; a local train with qualified good rolling material.
- S -- "S-Bahn"; an urban train in areas like Hamburg, Berlin,
- Frankfurt, Munich,...
- RB -- "RegionalBahn"; a local train with qualified good rolling
- material.
- () -- (no letter marking) "Nahverkehrszug"; local train with rather
- poor rolling material
- [2/94]
-
- 7.1.3. Ticket Prices
-
- 2nd class West 0.24 DM/km
- 2nd class East 0.15 DM/km
- 1st class is 150 percent.
- ICE price is a little more in 2nd and 1st class.
- There are special short-distance prices in many areas. In that case
- the ticket includes local bus and subway, but you can use all short-
- distance trains with a railroad ticket like Interrail etc or a long-
- distance train ticket. There will be a new price system in a few
- months.
- [2/94]
-
- 7.1.4. International Addresses for Railway Travelers
-
- USA
- German Rail/DER TOURS,
- 11933 Wilshire Blvd.
- LOS ANGELES, CA 90025
- Phone:(310)479-41140
- Fax:(310)479-2239
-
- Canada
- GERMAN RAIL/DER TOURS
- 904 The East Mail
- ETOBICOKE, ONT. M93 6K2
- Phone:(416) 695-1209
- Fax:(416)695-1210
-
- Australia
- THOMAS COOK LIMITED
- Ground Floor
- 257 Collins Street
- MELBOURNE VIC 2000
- Phone: (03) 6502442
- Fax:(03) 6507050
- [2/94]
-
- 7.1.5. Timetables
-
- There are many timetables you can buy or get for free in Germany.
- Prices will not be a real problem for travelers, but weight may be a
- concern, unless you are interested in transporting just timetables....
-
- "Kursbuch Gesamtausgabe"; 15 DM; 3000 g
- All trains in Germany, no subways, no busses.
-
- "Auslandskursbuch"; 10 DM; 800 g
- A selection of long-distance trains in Europe outside Germany.
-
- "Fernfahrplan"; 7 DM; 800 g
- All long-distance trains in Germany.
-
- "Regionalkursbuecher"; 7 DM; 800 g (each)
- 12 books with timetables.
-
- "Regionalfahrplaene"; 5 DM; 300 g (each)
- 30 books with all trains and all federal bus.
- (But no local bus etc!)
-
- "EC/ICE/IC-Fahrplan"; 0 DM; 200 g
- A big paper with all the high speed trains in Germany.
-
- "Staedteverbindungen"; 0 DM; 250 g
- Trains from big towns to other big towns.
-
- "Staedteverbindungen von ... und nach ..."; 0 DM; 30 g - 60 g
- 120 booklets about trains from the 120 most important stations
- to important station "...". Available only at local railway
- stations.
-
- "StreckenFahrplan Strecke ..."; 0 DM; 10 g
- Specialized table of all trains on just one line; hundreds of these
- papers exist. Available only at local railway stations.
-
- "Oertlicher Fahrplan"; X DM; X g
- In all towns you can buy local timetables with all the local bus
- and subway and local trains and all trains from the main local
- station.
- Buy it if you plan on staying any longer than just a few hours in
- an area.
- [2/94]
-
- 7.1.6. The "Poor Man's Version" of the "Kursbuch"
-
- The German "Kursbuch" exists on CD-ROM; but even without it one still
- gets
- along quite well, following these simple basic rules:
- - The service in the West is better than in the East.
- - You can rely on the backbone of the ICE/EC/IC/IR inner net with
- trains running at least every other hour, usually every one! (In some
- highly frequented areas three times an hour.)
- - Some ICE/EC/IC/IR may also connect to less important cities (outer
- net).
- - They always run at the same minute after the hour and they are very
- punctual.
- - On more than 90 percent of the railway lines there are more than just
- a few trains every day. Almost certainly there is a service of at
- least one train every other hour, usually there's better service.
- - Missed a train? You may or may not be well-advised to take the very
- next. On many lines there are different trains stopping not at the
- same stations. (Typically one train may stop at many stations and an
- hour later the next train stops at fewer stations and the next train
- after that one stops again *everywhere*... Because of this mixed
- service it is good advice to check if using a short-distance train is
- an option when you missed a long-distance train. Check first! Many
- short-distance trains stop at rural stations and wait to let a long-
- distance train pass. In that case it would be better to wait for the
- faster long-distance train....
- - Short-distance service is somewhat limited on Saturdays and Sundays
- and public holidays (no rush hour back-up trains; usual trains run less
- frequently.) Nevertheless, nearly all long-distance trains usually do
- run on these days. Check before traveling on less important lines on
- weekends!
- [2/94]
-
- 7.1.7. Fly and Ride (a Train)
-
- Airports with railway stations near or under the terminals:
-
- Duesseldorf: S-trains to Duesseldorf und Duisburg and other
- towns in the area.
- Frankfurt: S-trains to Frankfurt, Mainz and Wiesbaden and other towns
- in the area. IC/EC Service to many German towns.
- Stuttgart: S-trains to Stuttgart and other towns in the area.
- Muenchen: S-trains to Muenchen. It is a good advice for travelers to
- the North to check the bus shuttle via Freising
-
- Be ready to have German coins. It is not legal to enter an S-train
- without a valid ticket. So you might want to use the ticket vending
- machines. Other airports can be reached by local public transport.
- Taxis cost a lot in all areas and may also be time consuming in some
- areas.
- [2/94]
-
- 7.1.8. Trains and Bicycles
-
- It costs 8.60 DM to transport a bike in an IR TRAIN with reservation
- and self service, but costs double price without reservation.
- NOTE: It is not possible to transport a bike in 95 percent of all LONG-
- DISTANCE, NON-IR TRAINS!
- It costs 8.60 DM or less to transport a bike in any SHORT-DISTANCE
- train; no reservation necessary (or even possible).
- It is possible to transport a bike in 95 percent of all short-distance
- trains. Some of the RSB and E trains are real semi-fast trains. It is
- very easy to take a bike across Germany's border by train. Take a
- train to the last station before the border. Than ride across the
- border to the next station... It might be possible that there is
- another method, ask....
- In tourist areas it is possible to rent bikes at railway stations or
- from private.
- [2/94]
-
-
- 7.2. Country-Wide/Continent-Wide Bus Travel like Greyhound?
-
- There is no national or private bus company like greyhound. There are,
- nevertheless, a few lines run by the European railroads or private
- companies. Some of the lines you can find in the *Kursbuch* . On many
- lines there is only one bus every day or even week. Some airport bus
- lines have real service.
- In towns with many foreign workers there might also be some bus
- services to the South, but you have to be a local to know about it.
- [2/94]
-
-
- 7.3. Regional Bus Service
-
- There are regional bus services run by bus companies of the federal
- railroad. Ask at a railway station about the service.
- EXCEPTION: In some areas, mostly in the Eastern, there is no regional
- bus service run by any railway related company. Ask for the local
- transport company.
- [2/94]
-
-
- 7.4. Local Transport (Within Cities)
-
- In all German towns there are local bus service or streetcars or
- subways. To get information about it ask local Germans. If this is
- not possible call the local railway station and ask them for the name
- and phone number of the local transport company. Then call the local
- transport.
- If you stay longer than a day in an area, it's a good idea to buy a
- local transport timetable and get a map of their local net.
- [2/94]
-
-
- # 8 Email in Germany
- #
- # The pointers and tools described here are mostly of general interest
- # in the sense that their scope is not restricted to Germany.
- #
-
- # 8.1. Finding Email Addresses
- #
- # Generally speaking, finding an email address is a non-trivial
- # undertaking, but it's not impossible. Several tools exist and you
- # ought to try to them first before you resort to posting a personal "I'm
- # looking for a friend" - note on the net.
- # These tool include: Netfind, X.500, rtfm's usenet-addresses search,
- # and WHOIS.
- # The more information you know about your associate (name, place of
- # business or school, and so on) the better your chances are!
- #
- # = INTERNET IN GENERAL =
- # read the newsgroup "alt.internet.services"!!! Get the FAQ-list from
- # there.
- #
- # = EMAIL BASICS =
- # FTP to ftp.sura.net:/pub/nic/network.service.guides/how.to.email.guide
- # to learn the basics of email on the internet.
- #
- # = From NETWORK to NETWORK =
- # If you have trouble navigating from one network to another (buzz-word
- # "gateways"!), read the pretty extensive "Inter-Network Mail Guide"
- # edited by Scott Yanoff (formerly edited by John J. Chew.) Fetch the
- # electronic version of this document by anonymous ftp from
- # csd4.csd.uwm.edu:/pub/internetwork-mail-guide
- #
- # = HOW TO FIND EMAIL ADDRESSES? =
- # A very complete answer is the "FAQ: How to find people's E-mail
- # addresses", frequently posted in the newsgroup "news.answers" and also
- # available by sending email
- # To: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu
- # with message body of:
- # send usenet/news.answers/finding-addresses
- #
- # = COLLEGE STUDENTS' ADDRESSES =
- # Anonymous-FTP to
- # rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/soc.college/Student_Email_Addresses
- # or send email
- # To: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu
- # with message body of:
- # send usenet/soc.college/Student_Email_Addresses
- #
-
- # 8.2. Getting Email Access
- #
- # Public Internet access is (still) nothing you could take for granted.
- # Not even at German universities; although the general trend is going
- # towards better service. Some universities provide it and some don't.
- # The University of Bonn, for instance, provides public Internet access
- # only since August 1993.
- # Nevertheless, usually it should be possible to stay on-line in
- # Germany. [2/94]
- #
- # 8.2.1. Universities
- #
- # If the university offers Internet access, you can be sure that the
- # services are not very much like what American students are used to.
- # For example FTP might be very(!) restricted.
- # Usually you'll have to be a student, postdoc, etc. to be entitled
- # for email access at your university. Ask for email at your local
- # "Rechenzentrum". [3/94]
- #
- # 8.2.2. Private Networks
- #
- # There are a number of ways besides university connections to stay on-
- # line. Private networks like FIDO or MAUS offer cheap connections to
- # the Internet. Only the telephone bills from the German TELEKOM can be
- # nasty. :-(
- #
- # = PDIAL =
- # One source of pointers to these networks is PDIAL, a list of public
- # access providers offering dial-up access to Internet connections (both
- # free and pay services.) I found that this list a very extensive for US
- # areas but tells only a few services for Germany. [3/94]
- # It is posted semi-regularly to alt.internet.access.wanted and
- # news.answers. You may also get it by sending email
- # To: info-deli-server@netcom.com
- # Subject: send PDIAL
- #
- # = MAUS.NET, SUB.NET, INDIVIDUAL.NET =
- # To get access to a NON COMMERCIAL BBS (like MAUS-NET). You can only
- # read or write messages or use email. Most of these feed into "SUB.NET"
- # or "INDIVIDUAL.NET" (IN) ... which is why you might want to consider
- # getting their services directly; their internet-connection is also
- # faster and more complete.
- #
- # Getting access through a COMMERCIAL usenet provider is advisable only
- # if you want to use the net for business. They are much more expensive
- # than IN and sub.net!
- #
- # If you live in Germany and you want to have modem-access to email,
- # the following pointers may help:
- #
- # info@subnet.sub.net
- # in-info@individual.net
- #
- # They can tell you local references for private access to the net.
- #
- # If you are interested in MAUS and you happen to know the license plate
- # id ("KFZ-Kennzeichen") for an area try the following (note that this
- # method doesn't always work!):
- #
- # SYSOP@[license plate id].MAUS.DE
- # example: SYSOP@K.MAUS.DE for service in the Cologne area.
- #
- # In the body of the message ask for the telephone number of your local
- # BBS box. [2/94]
-
-
- 9 Electronic Language
-
- 9.1. Dictionaries (Word Lists from the Net)
-
- = gopher (OK: 1/94) =
-
- There are on-line dictionaries available via gopher, e.g.:
- gopher.tu-chemnitz.de
- "Weitere lokale Infos (Woerterbuch)"
- gopher gopher.informatik.tu-muenchen.de 70
- "ISAR Gopher"/ "Services"/ "Englisches Woerterbuch"
-
- = ftp (OK: 1/94) =
-
- In general for ftp sites assume the following, unless stated
- otherwise;
- login: anonymous
- password: <your-own-email-address>
-
- German word lists and German-English dictionary word lists are
- available via FTP from the sites listed below.
-
- for people in EUROPE ...
- ___site___ ___directory___
- ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de /pub/doc/dict
- ftp.uni-kl.de /pub2/packages/doc.tum/dict
- ftp.th-darmstadt.de /pub/dicts/German
- ftp.uni-muenster.de /pub/comp/doc/dict
- mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de /public
- nestroy.wu-wien.ac.at /pub/lib/info/dict
-
- and, for people WEST OF THE ATLANTIC...
- ___site___ ___directory___
- arthur.cs.purdue.edu /pub/pcert/dict/German/ftp.informatik.tu-
- meunchen.de
-
-
- 9.2. Encyclopedias, "Lexika"
-
- There is a "Bertelsmann Universal Lexicon" available on CD-ROM, which
- can be ordered one from
-
- totronik Torsten Droste
- Rotebuehlstrasse 85 Tel: 0711-6271980
- D-70178 Stuttgart Fax: 0711-616218
- or
- Asix Technology GmbH
- Postfach 142 Tel: 07243-31048
- 76255 Ettlingen Fax: 07243-30080
-
- The cost is about DM 150, and they take major credit cards. Airmail
- shipment arrived within a week. They carry a number of other CD-ROM's
- also, and a catalog on 3-1/2" disk is available.
- [1/94]
-
-
- 9.3. Translation Programs; Spell Checkers; Thesauri
-
- Translators
-
- For MS-DOS you can buy translation programs (German-English).
-
- "Power Translation" by Global Link Inc.
- "Translation" by Timeworks Inc.
- (??? anybody ever used these programs? Experiences? Costs? ???)
- "German Assistant" by MicroTack
- Sold as a simple translator. Its real values are the hot key
- bilingual dictionary, verb conjugator and grammar help. These
- features work with any word processor. The translations range
- from poetic to horrible. (about $60)
- [2/94]
-
- Spell Checkers and Thesauri
-
- For German on the Mac., do an archie search for EXCALIBUR. This is a
- spell-checker designed to work with LaTeX documents, but it should also
- handle plain text pretty well. There are German, Dutch, French, and
- Italian dictionaries archived with the application. (about $0)
- (??? My archie couldn't locate any site ???)
-
- Word, WordPerfect and the like offer special modules for several
- languages, not only German. One can get spell checking and thesaurus
- modules for German. (about $100)
- [2/94]
-
-
- 9.4. Tutorial Software
-
- If you have an MS-DOS platform, one interesting site to look at might
- be:
-
- oak.oakland.edu:/pub/msdos/langtutr
-
- There is German, Spanish, Afrikaans, and other language software in
- this directory; GERM1-23.ZIP and GERM2-23.ZIP cover German language
- topics (mainly verb CONJUGATION and vocabulary exercises).
- VOCAB217.ZIP has basic VOCABULARY for several different languages.
- (about $0)
-
- There is also a program that presents German SHORT STORIES by
- Transparent Language in a parallel translation format, with
- translator's notes an GRAMMAR explanations. (about $80)
- [2/94]
-
-
- 10 "de" Newsgroups
-
- If you would like to know more about Germany and you are able to read
- and write German try the newsgroups in the "de" hierarchy. Those
- newsgroups are available in Germany and at some sites in the US.
-
- = NNTP = (??? couldn't access any of these??? 2/94)
- For a list of these sites send email to ju8025@csc.albany.edu or ftp to
- xray.phy.albany.edu
-
- = email = (unchecked)
- You can also subscribe to a special service that lets you read those
- newsgroups by email. Send a mail to CHAMAS@DOLUNI1.Bitnet. Send a
- mail like:
-
- To: CHAMAS@DOLUNI1.Bitnet (<- you might not have to use 'Bitnet')
- Subj.: CBM
- help
-
- Internet address: CHAMAS@vmxa.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de
-
- = gopher = (OK: 2/94)
-
- There are a number of US gopher sites that carry many newsgroups. I
- haven't found a single one in the US, yet(?), that carries "de"
- newsgroups.
- So the only remedy is to connect to a news feeder in Germany. Please
- use these services as little as possible if you are located outside of
- Europe...for sake of satellite bandwidth!
- Note that gopher provides only reading permission. You cannot post to
- "de" newsgroups.
-
- Here's how you do it: Connect to uni-trier, select one of the German
- sites, and select the "de" newsgroups of your choice.
-
- Type=1
- Name=NEWS: Public Access USENET News all over the World
- Path=1/Gateways/News
- Host=kleopatra.uni-trier.de
- Port=70
-
-
- 11 Fax Numbers in Germany
-
- Frederik Ramm generously offers to provide fax numbers of companies and
- institutes in Germany as they are printed in the official books by
- Telecom.
- Send an email like the following to his address:
-
- To: ule3@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
- Subject: FAX request
-
- Name: Firma Tiny
- Ort: Klein-Hoppenstaedt
-
-
- 12 German News via gopher/email
-
- NOTE: if you read soc.culture.german on a regular basis, please
- disregard this! The information available at these places is also fed
- into the newsgroup. You won't be missing anything!
-
- = gopher = (OK: 2/94)
-
- news.gwdg.de
- (URL for a WWW-Browser is: gopher://news.gwdg.de)
-
- Under menu point "Verschiedenes" you find *lots* of valuable
- information... a real gem among gopher services ;-)
- Proceed to "Aktuelle Nachrichten" for news transcripts from German
- sources (in German).
-
- = email = (OK: 2/94)
-
- send email To: LISTSERV@vm.gmd.de
- with body SUB GERMNEWS
-
- This will subscribe you to the list.
- DON'T DELETE THE AUTOMATIC REPLY! You'll need that information if you
- want to get off the list again.
-
-
- 13 German Soccer Results
-
- If you ask Thomas Hofmeister (hofmeist@zorro.informatik.uni-
- dortmund.de) he will send you the most recent soccer results via email.
-
- His postings are also archived on a WorldWide-Web-Server:
-
- URL is http://ls2-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/Buli/Buli.html.
- [2/94]
-
-
- 14 Transferring Foreign Academic Degrees to Germany
-
- (Because this is only important for Germans, I write this in German.
- There are just too many special legal terms involved to do it in
- English ...)
-
- ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????
-
- Hier fehlen mir noch Literaturhinweise (Gesetzestexte) und Beispiele.
-
- ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????
-
- Hier einige wichtige Fakten, die ihr wissen solltet.
-
- Fuer alle Bundeslaender:
-
- - Um einen auslaendischen akademischen Grad in seiner Originalform
- fuehren zu duerfen, bedarf es einer "Erlaubnis zum Fuehren ..."
-
- - Diese Erlaubnis erteilt das Kultusministerium des Bundeslandes, in
- welchem der erste Wohnsitz liegt. Fuer Personen, die nicht in
- Deutschland wohnen, erteilt das Land NRW die Erlaubnis.
-
- - Die Erlaubnis kostet etwa 100-150 DM Bearbeitungsgebuehr. Die
- Bearbeitung dauert etwa einen Monat.
-
- - Die Erlaubnis besagt nichts ueber eine Gleichwertigkeit. Sie
- stellt lediglich fest, dass der Titel rechtmaessig erworben wurde
- und gibt an, in welcher Form er verwendet werden darf. Zum
- Beispiel wird aus einem Master of Science, der an der State
- University of New York at Albany erworben wurde, ein "Master of
- Science at State University of New York at Albany". Gleichzeitig
- werden auch zulaessige Abkuerzungen mitgeteilt (Bsp: M.S.
- (SUNYA)).
-
- Fuer alle Bundeslaender ausser Bayern:
-
- Es gibt noch den zweiten Weg (ausser in Bayern): Ihr koennt einen im
- Ausland erworbenen Titel als einem deutschen gleichwertig anerkennen
- lassen. Die Bearbeitung ist dann im allgemeinen etwas aufwendiger
- (laenger, teurer). Das Ergebnis ist, dass ihr euch dann statt Ph.D
- Dr. phil nennen duerft (oder auch Dr. rer. nat.). Die Details
- sind von Bundesland zu Bundesland sehr verschieden. Diese
- Anerkennung kann auch abgelehnt werden.
-
- In einem Beispiel (Baden-Wuerttemberg) wurde ein amerikanischer
- Master (in Computer Science) in einen Magister umgewandelt. Dies
- wurde mit der Studienzeit begruendet, welche kuerzer war als die
- Regelstudienzeit fuer einen Diplom-Informatiker.
-
- Wer nicht in Deutschland gemeldet ist, muss sich an das
- Kultusministerium von Nordrhein-Westfalen wenden. Es wird dann ein
- Nachweis verlangt, dass man wirklich im Ausland lebt. Da es in
- vielen Laendern (speziell USA) keine Meldepflicht gibt, muss
- normalerweise der umgeschriebene Pass vorgelegt werden (Kopie
- reicht). Andere Nachweise sind zum Beispiel ein Auszug aus der
- DMV-Kartei (im wesentlichen besagt dieser, dass man einen
- amerikanischen Fuehrerschein hat, welcher auf eine amerikanische
- Adresse ausgestellt wurde).
-
- Die Adresse in NRW:
-
- Ministerium fuer Wissenschaft und Forschung
- des Landes NRW
- Postfach 101103
- (Voelkinger Str. 49)
- 40002 Duesseldorf
-
- Tel: +49 211 896-4335
- Fax: +49 211 896-4555
-
- Verlangt wird in NRW (wie sonst auch): Beglaubigte Kopie des
- Abiturzeugnisses und der Verleihungsurkunde fuer den amerikanischen
- Grad, Kopie eines Wohnsitznachweises, ausgefuelltes Antragsformular.
- Nach der Bearbeitung wird eine Gebuehr verlangt (war 150 DM). Ein
- Ph.D. wird in Dr. rer. nat. (USA) umgewandelt. Die Bearbeitung
- dauert etwa 3-4 Monate.
-
-
- 15 Questions and Answers
-
-
- 15.1. How to Write Umlauts in soc.culture.german?
-
- As you may have noted, there are various ways to write umlauts. There
- is no generally accepted way to do this in soc.culture.german.
- Periodically, therefore, you will observe hard-fought battles on this
- topic in this group.
-
- Here are the two methods most often used:
-
- "common" Version ae oe ue AE OE UE ss or sz
- TeX Version "a "o "u "A "O "O "s
-
- Please! if you have a German-style keyboard with umlauts, and if
- you're using it to, say, post something in soc.culture.german, DON'T
- use the umlauts. They probably won't get displayed correctly on
- terminals in, say, North America.
-
-
- 15.2. Taking American Electronic Equipment to Germany?
-
- If you wish to use domestic American electronics in Germany you will
- encounter difficulties such as:
-
- - German plugs have a different shape.
- - The medium wave (AM) frequencies have different spacings (9 kHz vs.
- 10 kHz). This will cause problems with digital receivers.
- - The voltage / frequency in Germany is 220-240 V / 50 Hz and not
- 110 V / 60 Hz as in the US. Improper voltage / frequency could
- result in serious damage.
- - TV uses the PAL norm. American TV uses the NTSC norm. These two
- norms are incompatible. Therefore an American television will
- generally not work in Germany and vice-versa, although multi-norm
- TVs are available in Europe.
-
- 15.2.1. Importing Phones to Germany?
-
- You may own any phone but you may not connect it to the public system
- unless it has a BZT number (Old phones: ZZF). You may not own radios
- or cordless phones which are not approved. The number is usually found
- on a sticker at the back of the case.
- Pulse dial phones should work in Germany. Tone dial is not available
- in many areas. This is changing, however.
-
- Cordless phones are a real problem. In Germany, cordless phones
- operate on different frequencies than in most other countries. The
- frequencies many foreign phones use are used by others (police,
- emergencies, radio, TV ...).
- It is a crime to own and use a cordless phone!
- Therefore,
- use only approved cordless phones !!! or they _will_ get you !!!
-
- Problems are possible with Hong Kong or British pulse dial phones
- because the pulses there are not exactly the same as in Germany. But
- the phone system is very tolerant and with most of these phones you can
- switch to the other system anyway (same for Modems).
-
- The wall outlets for phones in Germany have a different shape than the
- usual modular plug. Adapters are available in Germany (from 2.50 to 20
- DM). These adapters are no problems with phones. But legal and
- illegal things might not work together on the same line.
-
- #15.2.2. Video Tapes? -- Different Video Norms!
- #
- # PAL format videotapes will not display properly using an NTSC based VCR
- # and vice-versa.
- #
- # There are services where video conversion from any format to any other
- # format can be made for a fee (VHS, VHS-C and 8 mm types of cassettes.)
- # This will allow playback of videotapes made overseas using US TVs and
- # VCRs (PAL, SECAM --> NTSC) and vice-versa (NTSC --> PAL, SECAM, etc ...)
- #
- # It is also not too expensive to get a VCR which is able to play NTSC
- # and PAL tapes.
- # Only very few VCRs are able to record and play VHS tapes in NTSC and PAL
- # (e.g. Panasonic W1, about DM 5000). Cheaper VCRs are able to play
- # different formats (NTSC, PAL, SECAM).
- #
- # DO IT YOURSELF
- # With this setup you can transfer from NTSC to/from PAL at reasonable cost.
- # Dont expect studio quality though:
- # Akai VS R110EM is a three system unit - PAL, NTSC, SECAM , costs about
- # 200 dollars mailorder (smile video, nyc).
- # AIWA MG360S also 3 systems, costs about 450 us dollars (mail order,
- # j/R music world, nyc, 1 800 221 8180) [3/94]
- #
- # Another VCR that is "reasonably" priced is sold by Radio-Shack. The
- # VCR is available through special order only; and not all Radio Shack
- # employees know that this machine even exists. If they don't, have them
- # look in the current catalog for #16-706. The cost is $600.
- # (Need a second VCR for conversions.) [3/94]
-
-
- COMMERCIAL CONVERSION
-
- International Video Conversion
- 520 Harvest Lane
- Raleigh, NC 27606-2217
- Tel: (919) 233-8689
-
- Fees: $20.00 + $5.00 S&H
- (Price of a High Grade Cassette Included, 2hrs or less)
- Delivery: Mailed back the next day, express shipping at request.
- Payment: Check, Cash or Money Order mailed with tape.
-
-
- sasjrm@unx.sas.com does it for $5 per hour + $3 for the blank tape.
- (Formats: NTSC, PAL, NPAL, MPAL, SECAM, MSECAM)
-
-
- Conversion Labs
- 2250 Monroe St #263
- Santa Clara, CA 95050
- Tel: (408) 985 2098
-
- $20 per tape (up to 2h, each add. hour $ 10). Tape, S&H included.
- Mail only, next day shipping, overnight available. Check, cash, money
- order. Does: NTSC (8mm, Hi8, VHS) -> PAL (VHS)
-
-
- Give your local shops a try! I found a *Camera Shop* that does PAL <->
- NTCS conversions; a bit expensive, though ($20/h). But if you need
- something the very next day...
- [1/94]
-
-
- 15.3. Calling Germany Collect from Abroad?
-
- The most convenient way for German tourists to call home is the
- 'Deutschland direkt' Line. You can reach it toll-free from the US at
- 1-800-292-0049. A German speaking operator will connect your call.
- Collect calls are possible. It is also possible to use a special phone
- card and password. Ask your local 'Telefonladen' for details.
-
- If you want to call a German '130' number from the US, you need to call
- either the above mentioned service or your long distance operator.
- '130' numbers are Germany's version of the US '800' numbers. But if
- you call them from another country you will have to pay the usual fee
- for operator asst. long distance calls. Some of the German '130'
- numbers are linked to US '800' numbers so you can actually call them
- for free in the US.
-
- It is also not possible to reach US '800' numbers from Germany. You
- will have to use an operator. If you own a US phone card use one of
- the numbers listed (see 15.4.) Otherwise use the German long distance
- operator.
-
-
- 15.4. Using US Phone Cards in Germany?
-
- If you have an American phone card you can get connected to an English
- speaking operator from any phone by dialing:
-
- - AT&T Direct: 0130-0010 (operator)
- 0130-0011 (phone cards)
- 0130-850 058 (customer asst.)
- - MCI Direct: 0130-0012
- - US Sprint: 0130-0013
- - Canada Direct: 0130-0014
-
- The following countries offer an equivalent service by dialing:
-
- 0130-800-### (### is the international access code. For two digit
- access codes dial 0##. Example: Australia 0130-800-061)
-
- Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Chile, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Iceland,
- Israel, Italy, Japan, Rep. of Korea, Luxembourg, Malaysia, New
- Zealand, Philippines, Portugal, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey,
- United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, Finland, France, Hungary,
- Ireland, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Denmark
-
- Many other international long distance companies provide the same
- service. Ask your long distance carrier for the right number.
-
- Ask these companies for details.
-
-
- 15.5. VAT in Germany?
-
- In Germany every retail price includes 15% (1993 value) Value Added Tax
- (Mehrwehrtsteuer, MwSt). If you buy goods in Germany and plan to take
- them with you to a foreign country it is possible to get a refund for
- the VAT. In some places you even get a discount in the shop. To get
- the VAT refunded you usually need some proof that you life not in
- Germany (Passport ...) and a special receipt from the store. It is
- possible for Germans to get a refund if their Passport shows a foreign
- address. Then ask for your refund at the border or airport (if the
- store did not deduct the tax already). Please ask the customs people
- for details. This refund might be not available for residents of
- European Community member states.
-
-
- 15.6. What presents to take to Germany?
-
- T-SHIRTS, sweat-shirts, baseball-caps, mementos from such places as the
- Monterey Sea-Aquarium or the Museum of Modern Arts or the Air & Space
- or Smithsonian museum (or whatever is in your neighborhood)
-
- COMPUTER: software and paperback books about software and hardware.
- publications by your favorite computer users group (BMUG, BCS,
- whatever)
-
- BOOKS: paperbacks (non-fictional mostly), cartoons, cooking, travel
- guides, historical, biographies, etc...
-
- MUSIC: CDs are much cheaper here, especially if you do one of those
- mail-order 'buy 8, pay for 1/2' (and what do you mean I forgot to tell
- you about shipping&handling), and some cannot be easily found overseas.
- support your local starving-musicians and buy some of their stuff (CDs,
- Tshirts) at the next gig you in your favorite music hang-out...
-
- POSTERS: from museums, art boutiques, Natl. Geo, Smithsonian,
-
- MAGAZINES: Sunday NYT, last years Natl. Geo., Air&Space, Smithsonian,
- Architectural Digest, Texas (or whatever is published monthly with your
- state's name on it - with lots of pictures and local lore...)
-
- RAGS: CACM, IEEE, Foreign Affairs,...
- specialty rags (Private Pilot, Sailing, WoodWorking, Beer and Wine
- Making,...)
-
- and if you are a photographer, why not make a couple of 8 x 10" prints
- of some of your best (sign them and put them in a frame) ?!?
-
-
- 15.7. Buying a Car for Short Period instead of EuRail?
- [Summary of a thread from Fall 1993.]
-
- The overall tone of the responses was pessimistic. In particular:
- * REGISTRATION and INSURANCE are difficult to arrange for FOREIGNERS
- without residency
- * GAS is expensive
- * PARKING can be a hassle.
-
- Here are selected parts of the responses:
-
- Driving in Germany is not cheap! A tank of GAS that would cost you
- about $12 (~20 DM) in the USA would cost you about $50 there (~80 DM)
- in Germany (Assuming a rate of 1.60 DM per 1$.)
- ---
- If you don't buy a car from a dealer you do not pay VAT anyway. For
- that kind of money [DM 2000-2500, USD 1200-1500] don't bother about
- SHIPPING it to the States. It would be so old that it wouldn't have a
- catalytic converter.
- ---
- Your INSURANCE will be astronomical just because you're a foreigner.
- [...] You've also got to pay property TAXES on the car. That means you
- must have an address in Germany where you are "angemeldet" [residency].
- There also may be some legal hang-ups against buying a car if you're
- just using it to travel. In addition to these thoughts, the BUYING
- process is also quite different. You can't just walk into a car dealer
- and come out with a car -- like you can in America. There's quite a
- bit of paper work that needs to be done before you can even test drive
- the car. You'll have to come back a couple of days later to do that
- and then afterwards you can negotiate the transaction.
- ---
- Primarily central parts of the CITIES are closed for cars.
- ---
- PARKING can be a hassle.
- ---
- To my knowledge, you have to be RESIDENT of the Fed. Rep. of Germany
- in order to REGISTER a car. [...] RESELLING the car can be quite a
- hassle. There are times (not particular seasons, though) when the
- market is not really in favor for sellers. [...] RENTING a car might
- be worth considering.
- ---
- It should be no problem to get a car which is still running for this
- price. Make sure it has some state inspection time left, otherwise it
- will not be REGISTERED. [...] You will need INSURANCE, of course.
- This is based on the hp of the car. For 40 hp it will be about 100 DM
- per month. You must also pay car TAX, this is based on the cc of the
- engine. For 1 liter is it about DM 200 per year. You get a refund, if
- you sell the car earlier for the unused time.
- ---
- I personally would not recommend buying a very cheap car, because it
- will likely BREAK DOWN.
- ---
- I would look for a REALLY CHEAP CAR (<1000 DM), which will last for the
- time you are in Germany.
- ---
- > Are there Mercedes diesels from the 70s that are reasonably priced?
- They are about DM 2000-6000 [USD 1200-4000] ... maybe more if in very
- good shape.
- ---
- I lived in Germany for over a year and one of the nicer things [...]
- about living there is the fact that you DON'T NEED a car.
-
-
- 15.8. How much is Gasoline in Germany?
-
- Diesel...: DM 1.18 (+/- 0.06) per liter
- ??? what are the other typical values ???
- [2/94]
-
-
- 15.9. How to get German Stock Data via Internet?
-
- For WWW-browsers available... use URL:
-
- http://www.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de/AG/JWGI/JWGIhome.html
-
- (daily updated info; the data seem to come from www.win.tue.nl)
- ??? when I checked, I didn't find any direct exchange rates ???
- ??? and what is "mrt" anyway? ???
- [2/94]
-
-